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Wile E. Coyote


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Hang on, the Euro trend is to chuck out a centrist woke lot for a rebranded fascist/national party. We, I mean Britain, not AE ( I can speak for the former), are chucking out a centrist woke party for another centrist woke party.

We are stuck in the age-old paradigm of chucking out a so-called "right" party for a so called "left" party, whereas the Europeans are in a battle of all the "old" parties (now called centre) against the "new" right. This is what Ursula calls the centre holding, ie you tot up every vote for these older parties (no matter how bonkers their manifesto) on the grounds they are not "new right" and then claim a victory for centrist mederation.......

Note, Meloni and Le Pen have cleverly worked out that you will secure national power by always blaming Europe (bit like the SNP gained total power by always blaming Westminster), by keeping inside the Union and then moaning about directives, rather than by actually Exiting. It only goes to show how badly Farage and Johnston have cocked up by taking us out of the EU. Boris and Nigel have in reality ensured another half century of wokist mediocrity. Bastards.
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Mick Harper
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Yes, but you're not being very AE-ist. The correct approach is to eschew such labelling and simply observe that there is nothing whatsoever 'wrong' about some new lot coming to prominence. It is the way democracy works when democracy is not working. You might think some of their policies are 'bonkers' just as you have declared some mainstream parties to have 'bonker' policies but they are simply policies that haven't been tried yet. We have no idea whether they will turn out be bonkers or not. Right-wing populists are rational so they probably will.

The only reason you -- and everyone else -- is alarmed by these new parties is because they might turn out to be the Nazi Party de nos jours. Let me put your mind to rest. The Nazi Party (along maybe with the Bolshevik wing of the Russian Social Democrat Party insofar as they were democratically elected) were only able to do their horrid deeds because they were operating as the government of a Great Power and therefore free to murder (or seriously disoblige) millions of people unmolested.

This does not apply to any country within the EU.
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Wile E. Coyote


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Mick Harper wrote:
It is the way democracy works when democracy is not working.

It is the way that democracy works when the nation state model becomes threatened, ie it will reform a national party to restore the foundation.

The only reason you -- and everyone else -- is alarmed by these new parties is because they might turn out to be the Nazi Party de nos jours.

The reason why we feel moral outrage/concern is that because this foundation, restoral, or strengthening of national states is normally progressive, we now contemplate the failed examples (Nazi, Bolshevik) as particularly barbaric, ie we now hold ousrselves to much higher standards, and overlook obvious failings outside Europe.
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Mick Harper
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Nah, you just think they're below the salt.
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Grant



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I'm not one for conspiracy theories (actually I love them) but is Rishi deliberately destroying the Tory party?

In the last month he's made the two greatest errors in the history of British general elections.

First, after declaring for two years that his goal is to reduce inflation and boost growth, he calls a GE at the first positive sign that his plan is working, even though he could give it another five months.

Second, he deliberately avoids being seen with the US and French presidents on the beaches of Normandy. Is there a single British politician who would have missed this opportunity in the middle of a GE - or indeed any time.

Some say he's made a gaffe, but this is a man who seduced a billionaire's daughter at Oxford, held down a good job at Goldman Sachs and outmanoeuvred Boris and Truss to the top job. He's a cunning little devil.

He called the election as soon as the good news broke so the Tories couldn't capitalise on the positive financial news.
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Mick Harper
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His father-in-law is going to buy up a bankrupt Britain and asset-strip it, is that the idea? He needs to concentrate on buying up India, he does, what with Modi 'doing a Rishi' as we psephologists call it.

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Is Rishi Sunak a Houthi? If he is a plant he is certainly doing a brilliant job.
Mick Harper on Medium Jan 24, 2024

Sending Typhoons from Cyprus to bomb people driving around in pick-ups with drones in the back is proving a tough ask but each time ‘Rishi’ orders it, a million Yemenis hit the streets declaring death to the British and undying loyalty to the Houthi cause. One wonders how often he can get away with it before the British intelligence services smell a rat.

However, despite their coup, the Houthi intelligence services can be justly criticised for giving their man a less than believable legend:

“Southampton pharmacist marries billionaire’s daughter and becomes British prime minister after four prime ministers are removed in quick succession, each one in unusual circumstances.”

Just because it worked doesn’t make it copy book. Thank God there are still patriots left in Parliament who are trying to get Rishi removed. Only eleven of them so far, according to the BBC, but it’s a start.

“Houthis, get off our lawn! Stick to you own neck of the woods.”
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Wile E. Coyote


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To be fair, whilst I believe his family come from the colonies, I don't think they, or he, had practical experience of governing. What we should have done, of course, is topple Modhi and given Rishi a few years as Viceroy, and only then elevated him.

Only once you have put down an Indian Mutiny, have you really demonstrated that you might be able to cope with Mogg and co, and so are worthy of "the highest office".
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Mick Harper
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The Black Hole is too good for the likes of them.
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Mick Harper
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As a self-employed pensioner suffering from fly-tipping, I shall be voting Conservative. (Will they really come round and clear up my living room?)
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Wile E. Coyote


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Bit disappointed the Tories are only cracking down hard on organised fly-tippers. Come on guys, be ambitious, target the disorganised, really messy ones.
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