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Mick Harper
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Most of Russian post-sanctions oil exports go out via their 'shadow fleet', elderly tankers patched up to 'do a job'. Five of them have been subject to explosions in 2025 (so far). Which is about five more than would be expected, actuarially speaking.

So we can be reasonably confident it is Ukrainian special forces sticking time-controlled limpet mines on to their hulls (or in their engine rooms) during the considerable number of slowdowns/ stopovers necessary to get Russian tankers to anywhere in the world outside Russia.

This is considered something of a triumph by Ukrainophiles.

Apart from me. Not because it's a pinprick for Russia (every little bit helps) but because anyone who thinks the rest of the world will thank Ukraine when

* the inevitable oil spills start to happen
* the flag carrier is the Marshall Islands, Panama or suchlike
* the owner is untraceable
* the cause of the accident is 'unknown' and
* nobody is prepared to pay for the clean-up

is a total twat.
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Disagree, the likely cause is surely that these ships are old, nearing or exceeding their natural lifespans, not routinely repaired and inspected, not insured, nobody is able to track them and so on. Russia bought and repurposed lots of ageing tankers and hid them through shell companies and flags of convenience to avoid sanctions.

The two tankers that went down in the Kerch Strait in December 24 were over 55 years old. One tanker split in half. Ukraine complained.

https://united24media.com/latest-news/russian-tankers-sink-in-kerch-strait-after-violating-safety-and-navigation-rules-4480
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Mick Harper
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Don't forget to send me a list of all countries that have their tankers blow up once a month. For comparative purposes, you understand.

PS The Kerch tankers were not included in my list.
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Mick Harper
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I swear by Almighty God that I am a supporter of Palestine Action.
M J Harper 6th July 2025

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What you are suggesting makes zero sense to Wiley, but there again, I have been wrong about a number of things.

Why when Ukraine can and has launched a highly sucessful co-ordinated attack with drones on Russian refineries, pumping stations, pipes etc and so on, would they do this, at reputational risk? When I looked it up on Lloyds List, three of the tankers are not shadow fleet or have any proven connection to sanctions busting.

Still, I can't see any military or economic sense (they are paying out huge sums in signing on fees and death payments) in losing waves of ill-equipped Ivans on motorbikes, golf carts etc, to extend Putinaria from 18% of Ukraine to 19%, over the last year.

Maybe Trump is right?

Neither side knows what it is fxxxing doing any more?
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The vice president of Russia’s state-owned oil pipeline monopoly, Transneft, has died after falling from a window at his home in the upscale Moscow suburb of Rublyovka. Transneft confirmed Andrei Badalov’s death, it came during a “difficult and stressful period” marked by Western sanctions..

Or maybe they do know?
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Mick Harper
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Wiley wrote:
Why, when Ukraine can and has launched a highly sucessful co-ordinated attack with drones on Russian refineries, pumping staions, pipes etc and so on, would they do this, at reputational risk?

Ukraine has a track record for ill-advised oil spectaculars (as well as lots of well-advised ones). Remember the NordStream pipeline? Maybe Uke Special Forces kicking over the traces.

When I looked it up on Lloyds List, three of the tankers are not shadow fleet or have any proven connection to sanctions busting.

Then I will have to withdraw my case entirely. But I shall not be doing so for this slender reason.

Still, I can't see any military or economic sense (they are paying out huge sums in signing on fees and death payments) in losing waves of ill-equipped Ivans on motorbikes, golf carts etc, to extend Putinaria from 18% of Ukraine to 19%, over the last year.

Putin can see the point. I can see Putin's point.

Maybe Trump is right?

No, Trump's position is too anomalous to be 'right' in terms of US foreign policy. It looks to be personal.

Neither side knows what it is fxxxing doing any more?

It is true 'Russia' -- as opposed to Putin -- has no rationale in prolonging the war but it is not true of Ukraine. They have no choice but to continue fighting since neither Russia nor America will take steps to halt the war.

The vice president of Russia’s state-owned oil pipeline monopoly, Transneft, has died after falling from a window at his home in the upscale Moscow suburb of Rublyovka. Transneft confirmed Andrei Badalov’s death, it came during a “difficult and stressful period” marked by Western sanctions.. Or maybe they do know?

Defenestration in Slavic countries is not, generally speaking, a matter of choice.
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