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Wile E. Coyote
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The Southampton police were being anti-racist (admittedly a crime in AE parlance) and Nowak died because of police inaction.
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Lets suppose the Police called an ambulance at the first mention, without further verification of the stabbing, which was clearly not obvious to them, as the blade had penetrated so deeply, that the blood was pooling inside his chest cavity, rather than soaking his clothes immediately.
Are you saying that would have saved the victim..........?
Nobody would survive that wound, according to the pathologist, but even if they might, it would have meant that the ambulance arrived 3 minutes earlier.......
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Mick Harper
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The Southampton police were being anti-racist (admittedly a crime in AE parlance) and Nowak died because of police inaction.
Lets suppose the Police called an ambulance at the first mention, without further verification of the stabbing, which was clearly not obvious to them, as the blade had penetrated so deeply, that the blood was pooling inside his chest cavity, rather than soaking his clothes immediately. |
I hadn't been keeping abreast of the details but I was assuming something like this had happened. From what you say, I can't see the police did anything wrong at all. You don't normally consider the possibility of a stabbing being involved when turning up to a street altercation.
| Are you saying that would have saved the victim..........? |
I have no idea. All I was saying is that it was the police's inaction (in not sending him off to hospital rather than sorting out a crime incident) that seems to be at the heart of the political kerfuffle. All this is in stark contrast to the George Floyd case.
| Nobody would survive that wound, according to the pathologist, but even if they might, it would have meant that the ambulance arrived 3 minutes earlier....... |
This is why I am amazed anyone would think this to be of ongoing national importance. An Indian nutter going round stabbing people to death would be, but only in a one-day-wonder sort of way.
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Mick Harper
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It is being casually assumed that if Andy Burnham wins the Makerfield by-election and launches a leadership bid against Keir Starmer, he will win easily in a vote of Labour MP's. This may not be so. Here's the relevant timeline.
2015 An organisation called Labour Common Good is formed by John Clarke
2017 It is rebranded Labour Together by John Cruddas MP and Morgan McSweeney
2018 McSweeney hooks up with Keir Starmer
2019 Labour lose general election badly
2020 Jeremy Corbyn replaced as leader by Keir Starmer
2021 McSweeney appointed 'head of campaigns', giving him power to influence the choice of parliamentary candidates
2022 Liz Truss disaster puts Labour miles ahead in the polls
2023 McSweeney manoeuvres 'two hundred' trusted people into now winnable seats
2024 Labour landslide, the 'two hundred' are now MP's
2025 Starmer is such a disaster Labour is miles behind in the polls
2026 Andy Burnham launches his campaign to oust Starmer.
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Mick Harper
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In: London
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You all remember George Robertson. Labour MP, Defence Secretary, Secretary-General of NATO, now his Lordship. Someone well worth listening to when it comes to the defence estimates currently being murmured about about by Labour MP's. You have to up 'em, he tells them. No choice.
Why's that, George?
Because of the danger of a missile attack from Russia.
You mean a nuclear attack?
No, we've got that covered. A conventional strike.
What, a few tons of TNT landing on us?
You've got it. Ask Ukraine what that's like.
A building gets demolished. An old lady goes to hospital, that sort of thing?
They've got a lot of missiles.
And why us?
I dunno but it could happen.
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Mick Harper
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If you want the full, terrifying story of how the Labour Right got rid of Corbynism, it's spelled out in a riveting four-hour Al-Jazeera series called The Labour Files available on YouTube. If the conspirators weren't in charge of the security services at the moment, they'd all be in gaol.
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Mick Harper
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I've been following the Californian gubernatorial race on your behalf (I'm not charging you for it) and I couldn't help thinking the name of the candidate who won the Republican primary was somehow familiar. Steve Hilton. Probably a Silicon Valley billionaire or something.
It was only today when the dude popped up in person on CNN, armed with a British accent, that I remembered he was David Cameron's so-called 'director of strategy' (i.e. eminence grise). I do recall now he skulked off to California when his services were no longer required but I didn't think he would ever fall this far.
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Wile E. Coyote
In: Arizona
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| Mick Harper wrote: | | If you want the full, terrifying story of how the Labour Right got rid of Corbynism, it's spelled out in a riveting four-hour Al-Jazeera series called The Labour Files available on YouTube. If the conspirators weren't in charge of the security services at the moment, they'd all be in gaol. |
Wiley pines for the good old days when allegations, of Class traitor, Stalinist, Trot, old white working class male, misogynist, corrupt right winger, sellout, racist, anti semitic etc were kept strictly in-house.......and comrades joined arms and sang the Red Flag.....
For God Sake whats family stays within the family.......
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Mick Harper
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The Al-Jazeera piece definitely soft-pedals the Momentum side of things. The difference between the two sets of entryists was that the Hard Left always uses legal but democratically outrageous stunts while the Right (who guessed you would ever have to be an entryist from the centre!) were guilty of downright and vicious skullduggery.
I never thought I would have to chide Leninists for being too gentlemanly.
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