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Ishmael
In: Toronto
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| Pete Jones wrote: | | ...the night before John Hinckley shot Reagan, Hinckley's brother had been planning to have dinner with the son of the man who would become president had the assassination been successful, Neil Bush. |
The story I heard was that the parents of the shooter did in fact have dinner with Bush Sr. Is that story wrong?
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Ishmael
In: Toronto
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| Pete Jones wrote: | * Trump shot at in Pennsylvania, the home state of his presidential competition, Biden
* Gerald Ford shot at in California (by Manson Family daughter Squeaky Fromme), the home state of his presidential competition, Ronald Reagan, who was trying to oust Ford in the GOP primary in '76
* RFK Sr shot and killed in California, the home state of his presidential competition, Nixon
* JFK shot and killed in Dallas, TX, the home state of the man who would immediately become president, Lyndon Johnson
* William McKinley shot and killed in Buffalo, New York, the home state of the man who would immediately become president, Teddy Roosevelt
* James Garfield shot and killed in Long Branch, New Jersey, very close to New York (but not New York itself, granted), the home state of the man who immediately become president, Chester A. Arthur. |
What this list suggests to me:
All of these assassinations were planned by the same people and they have a manual for how to do them. Every time; they followed the book.
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Ishmael
In: Toronto
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What we need: Foreign assassinations in which the CIA is suspected. Map them by provinces/districts associated with political rivals.
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Mick Harper
Site Admin
In: London
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Assassination attempts in the case of Fidel Castro.
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Mick Harper
Site Admin
In: London
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Watching some people discussing how commonplace corporal punishment -- by parent or by teacher -- was 'when I were a lad' reminded me of this curious episode in my own youth.
Our geography teacher was a fearsome Welshman (who was also deputy headmaster and a stalwart of the Labour party) whose favourite punishment was a thunderous slap on the side of the face. One day, half a dozen of us were guilty of turning in substandard homework and he lined us up at the front of the classroom. "You boys have the choice of a slap on the face or doing your homework again. Well?"
Homework, sir.
Homework, sir.
Homework, sir.
Homework, sir.
Homework, sir.
I'll take the slap. |
Afterwards I was positively mobbed. 'Why did you take the slap, Mick?' 'For Chrissake, it's over in a second and it stings for ten. Doing that bleedin' homework will take an hour.'
I still think I was right and I still don't understand why nobody could see this. Can youse guys enlighten me?
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Pete Jones
In: Virginia
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| Ishmael wrote: | | All of these assassinations were planned by the same people and they have a manual for how to do them. Every time; they followed the book. |
Two options then (at least):
1. Part of SOP is then to do it in a location that will insinuate the guilt of the person who will most obviously/immediately benefit.
(I could buy this if the mouthpieces of Official Stories had ever bothered to notice the pattern. Since I've never seen it noticed, I'm assuming nobody gave the Official Storytellers a nudge in this direction. Which would defeat the purpose of the part of SOP.)
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2. Part of SOP is to do such things on the home turf of the immediate beneficiary, because the immediate beneficiary is the head of the snake, and he can only pull off such an act if he has his local yokels in place to control the act or the aftermath.
(I could buy this, but it implies that it's not the same people every time, and also that American political history is chock-full of murdering presidents. I could buy this, too.
But it might also imply that your single group of culprits approaches the beneficiary and says "We're doing this, we're telling you now, we're doing it in a place where we can pin it on you if you don't play ball, and so you might as well go along with us. It's going to work out great for you!")
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Ishmael
In: Toronto
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The volume on the video is so low I can't hear it on full blast.
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Ishmael
In: Toronto
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| Pete Jones wrote: | | 1. Part of SOP is then to do it in a location that will insinuate the guilt of the person who will most obviously/immediately benefit. |
After JFK, the news media dutifully blamed it on "Texas culture." They did this for decades.
| (I could buy this if the mouthpieces of Official Stories had ever bothered to notice the pattern. |
On the contrary; if there is a how-to manual, and people follow it by rote, then many steps will be taken only because those steps are those the books says to do.
| But it might also imply that your single group of culprits approaches the beneficiary and says "We're doing this, we're telling you now, we're doing it in a place where we can pin it on you if you don't play ball, and so you might as well go along with us. It's going to work out great for you!") |
Sadly plausible.
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Mick Harper
Site Admin
In: London
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I don't know if you remember but we once ran a competition: "Name a conspiracy theory that turned out to be true." It produced some interesting results. Mainly along the lines of
Which always turned out to be a conspiracy theory that that person happened to believe in! Sometimes
Which always turned out to be a scandal that was uncovered some years later by conventional journalistic doggedness. I trust neither of you fall into either category.
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Mick Harper
Site Admin
In: London
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The Psychiatry of Conspiracy Theories May 23, 2023
Paranoia, what part does it play? Very little.
Conspiracy theories are a branch of the entertainment industry. As with, say, horror films paranoia is present but is not what makes them popular. Conspiracy theories must have a ‘grassy knoll’ element but only as a plot device.
We psychiatric practitioners are not in a position to know whether, in fact, a real second gunman was on the grassy knoll, or might reasonably be conjectured to be, so the patient might be exhibiting prudent concern about an actual conspiracy, not clinical paranoia.
However, if there has to be a grassy knoll element present, whether it is a genuine conspiracy or a conspiracy theory, how is one to tell which it is? This is critical for an assessment of patients so a test has been devised to assist accurate diagnoses:
* Make a list of all current conspiracy theories [latest figure, 1,573]
* Tick all the ones that turned out to be true [latest figure, zero]
* Tick the ones that may turn out to be true [latest figure, 1,573]
* Discuss with patient.
Turning to the wider psychiatric picture, a questionnaire has been prepared:
Question 1: Was the central figure someone with psychiatric problems?
Answer: Yes.
Question 2: Do those people who believe it was a conspiracy even though a person with psychiatric problems is indicated, have psychiatric problems?
Answer: Yes.
Question 3: Is it a matter for concern that half the people in the world believe in conspiracy theories?
Answer: Yes.
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Mick Harper
Site Admin
In: London
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It being a Sunday I stripped off for a bath, putting my clothes in the washing machine which seemed somewhat full so I pressed the on dubry, and jumped in the bath. On jumping out I find I have no trousers. It being a Sunday, I don't have many social engagements so no harm done. But it gave me pause for thought.
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Mick Harper
Site Admin
In: London
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I have ordered two pairs of trousers and a towelling bathrobe for twenty quid, all in. Took me five minutes. Done and dusted for this year and next. What a wondrous world we live in.
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Mick Harper
Site Admin
In: London
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My new post-Medium regime had an unfortunate corollary. By the time I had performed my self-imposed AEL commitments and finished my daily piece of creativity in the form of a page of the Whence Agriculture book, I was officially done for the day and it was only nine o'clock in the morning. The day yawned.
However my discovery of YouTube (and more importantly paying them a pittance every month to be ad-free) meant I had soon ventured beyond Arsenal blogs and the essential daily Ukraine briefing from Denys Davydov to discover all sorts. Like, for instance right now, news of a dam in Tajikistan which is set to produce ructions with Uzbekistan and more energy than Germany.
I will soon be the best informed person on the planet in addition to being the cleverest person in the known universe. Whether it will do me, the planet or the universe any good remains the big unanswered question. But that is for after lunch.
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Pete Jones
In: Virginia
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| Ishmael wrote: |
The volume on the video is so low I can't hear it on full blast. |
I could hear it, barely. Here's what the reporter says, transcribed by me:
...towns in America. John Hinckley and his family lived in a house that would sell today for around $300,000. Hinckley is very remembered at Highland Park High School where he graduated in 1973.
This donut shop near the hotel was visited by Hinckley, who reportedly waited for a phone call here each day [shows image of phone booth], even though he had a phone in his hotel room. The nature of the calls is not known.
[muffled]. The young man walking with the elder Hinckley is 30-year-old Scott Hinckley, John Jr's brother. He and Vice President Bush's son Neil are friends. They had planned to have dinner together in Denver tonight. The plans have been cancelled. |
And of course (i.e., as a matter of course, per the SOP?) Hinckley was a Texan, from Dallas, the home state of the man who would be president if his attack were successful.
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