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Mick Harper
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What is bad for both the USA and Canada is automatically bad for us.
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The last known trip by a director of the CIA to Russia was that of Wiliam Burns, Nov 2021. This was to warn Vladdy the Baddy, that he should not invade Ukraine. Until that is Tuesday. The last known trip is now that of CIA Director John Ratcliffe, on Tuesday.

For what purpose?

I doubt this was a negotiation Witkoff and Kushner do those. Normally they do it badly.

This was something that the CIA were doing, a clear one way communication, "You are preparing to do this, if you do it, this will happen".

The question, (he didnt listen to Burns, he wont have listened to Ratcliffe) is what madness, is Vladdy now planning, that the CIA have the intel on?
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The last known trip by a director of the CIA to Russia was that of Wiliam Burns, Nov 2021. This was to warn Vladdy the Baddy, that he should not invade Ukraine. Until that is Tuesday. The last known trip is now that of CIA Director John Ratcliffe, on Tuesday. For what purpose? I doubt this was a negotiation

It's becoming a bit of a trend though. The Israelis sent the heads of Mossad and Sin Beit to negotiate 'peace' in the Middle East.

Witkoff and Kushner do those. Normally they do it badly.

You assume it was 'badly' because you were hoping for a settlement of the Ukraine War. This may not have been their brief. After all they were equally 'unsuccessful' when joining the Israeli intelligence chiefs in negotiating 'peace' in the Middle East.

This was something that the CIA were doing, a clear one way communication, "You are preparing to do this, if you do it, this will happen".

You are assuming that was his mission.

The question, (he didnt listen to Burns, he wont have listened to Ratcliffe) is what madness, is Vladdy now planning, that the CIA have the intel on?

But, yes, the same thought flashed through my mind as well.
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It is said, and I believe it, that people are losing their faith in the police. An example of why was on show in the aftermath of the Middlesbrough car smash.

A few days after and a mile away from the crash, there was an arson attack on a family home resulting in the death of a woman and a toddler in her care. The following day Cleveland Police issued a statement that there was no connection between the two events.

Since (a) car crashes that result in seven fatalities are as rare as hen's teeth and (b) arson attacks that result in two fatalities are as rare as hen's teeth, the chances of this being true is close to zero. But even if it was true the police could not possibly have had the time to establish it as being true.

Now of course one can see why the police acted as they did. They wished to lower the general excitability of Middlesbrough and especially the general hostility to the minority group held to be responsible. But since nobody believed the statement for one minute only the credibility of Cleveland police was lowered.

It is important to understand that the British police are not institutionally racist or sexist or violent or corrupt. They are institutionally woke.
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Mick Harper wrote:

It is important to understand that the British police are not institutionally racist or sexist or violent or corrupt. They are institutionally woke.


Not in my experience.

There are lots of folks calling the police racist.

There are lots of folks calling the police woke.

They cannot be instituionally be both. Can they?


They are doing their job, in the middle of a culture war, where folks on both of these sides are calling them out, sometimes correctly, sometimes not.

In Wileys opinion folks are losing faith, in institutions that overuse spin.

You cant polish a turd.
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It is important to understand that the British police are not institutionally racist or sexist or violent or corrupt. They are institutionally woke.
Not in my experience.

OK
There are lots of folks calling the police racist.

What's this got to do with me?

There are lots of folks calling the police woke.

What's this got to do with me?

They cannot be instituionally be both. Can they?

No, they can't. If you or anyone else can point me to an example of the police being institutionally racist, as opposed to police officers being racist, I'd be obliged. I do not need to supply examples of them being institutionally woke, do I? They are legion. Though I shouldn't think many British police officers are woke.

They are doing their job, in the middle of a culture war, where folks on both of these sides are calling them out, sometimes correctly, sometimes not.

I disagree. They have taken sides in the culture war. Something they must never do if they wish to 'police by consent'.

In Wileys opinion folks are losing faith, in institutions that overuse spin.

It is not overuse of spin that is the problem, it is the incompetence and partiality of the spin that is the problem.

You cant polish a turd.

A good example of the problem. The British police are broadly OK.
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We listened to the great and the good discuss Middlesbrough on Newsnight. Not a single person -- sofa guest, talking head, party spokesperson, a local journalist with an impeccable Teesside accent dragged into the national light of day -- referred to the actual cause. Not once, not even in code.

Which is, insofar as I can judge, gang wars between and antisocial behaviour among local Traveller families. Instead, our masters listed crime problems that affect all deprived areas. Always have, always will. But no more. Andy Burnham has promised to raise living standards in every postcode!

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Instinctivly I would disagree.

Travellers often have a cultural aversion to bricks amd mortar, they do have family feuds that are bitter and go on a (very) long while, but they are not normally drawn into joining gangs.

Not saying your wrong, but I can see why the police would not see this link as obvious. The second incident does not seem obviously connected to the first.

I agree you are normally right.
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Instinctivly I would disagree. Travellers often have a cultural aversion to bricks amd mortar

I do not see the relevance of this.

they do have family feuds that are bitter and go on a (very) long while, but they are not normally drawn into joining gangs.

I accept the term 'travellers' is a bit vague and I also accept that they are not normally associated with organised crime in the sense we normally apply that term. But how exactly are 'bitter and long-standing family feuds' different from gang warfare?

Not saying your wrong, but I can see why the police would not see this link as obvious.

I did not say they would not 'see' this. I was only commenting on them not speaking about it publicly.

The second incident does not seem obviously connected to the first.

I was arguing that it 'must be' because otherwise the coincidence is on a scale that is beyond astronomical.

I agree you are normally right.

You could have fooled me.
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I am currently listening to the stirrings of something that encapsulates some of the differences between two of our racial minorities. The Notting Hill Carnival lasts two days, is some forty years old and is dedicated to music and dance. The Appleby Horse Fair lasts a week, is two hundred and fifty years old and is dedicated to commerce and matchmaking.

I wish them both well despite the dislocations experienced by the locals. I like to think that encapsulates my general attitude to racial minorities.
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* A few days ago CrossCountry's control centre in Birmingham blew a fuse (or whatever) which resulted in a more or less complete breakdown in train services for a considerable time throughout large parts of the country.

Who do you suppose was blamed for this? It was obvious enough. CrossCountry should have had a back-up generator that took over instantaneously and/or a back-up control centre.

* A few weeks ago Avanti's Control Centre in Manchester blew a fuse (or whatever) which resulted in a more or less complete breakdown in train services for a considerable time throughout large parts of the country.

Who do you suppose was blamed for this? It was obvious enough. Avanti should have had a back-up generator that took over instantaneously and/or a back-up control centre.

I don't expect anyone will listen to me about such nationally important matters, but I disagree about who was to blame.

1. Train control centres are vital parts of the national infrastructure and supervised as such
2. They hardly ever go out of commission
3. When they do, disruption is localised and of short duration
4. Twice within a month in two completely different train systems is not a coincidence
5. The same thing happened a year or two back with two airport control centres
6. Twice to two different transport systems is not a coincidence
7. I can't remember what was happening at the time of the airport outbreak
8. Russia is now threatening retaliation for Britain supplying Ukraine with advanced missiles
9. I conclude all four events were examples of Russian hybrid warfare
10 Even if they aren't, somebody should for chrissake consider the possibility.
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"He's blaming someone from a time before I was born!" Kemi Badenoch replying to the Prime Minister's maiden speech in the Commons.

She's not wrong. The Labour Party is still fixated on Thatcherism. Love it or loathe it, you have to move on from it some time. Love them or loathe them, you have to admit that both Blair and Starmer attempted to do this, Brown and Burnham haven't.

In fact Burnham seems to positively wallow in all the old faves. Not the ones from the 1970's. The ones from the 1870's.
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Mick Harper wrote:

She's not wrong. The Labour Party is still fixated on Thatcherism. Love it or loathe it, you have to move on from it some time. Love them or loathe them, you have to admit that both Blair and Starmer attempted to do this, Brown and Burnham haven't.

In fact Burnham seems to positively wallow in all the old faves. Not the ones from the 1970's. The ones from the 1870's.


Starmer it seems to Wiley, actaually made the mistake of going back to the years of Blair/Mandelsohn.

He appointed McSweeney, (as his Mandelsohn) to become his all powerful Downing Street Chief of Staff/Spin Doctor, who was given authority, to brief against his cabinet, and any Labour MPs, who were dissenters, as well as opponents, and of course "left wingers".

When Starmer "stupidly" (given that Peter had been forced to resign twice before, and he was warned by colleagues not to do it) allowed the appointment of Mandelsohn, on the advice of Morgan, there was more than enough moderate Labour MPS to sweep them both out, when it went wrong.

For some reason there are still "New Labour" comrades that want the "Good Old Days" of spin and Svengalis.

Boring old Andy hasnt made that mistake yet.
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Everyone's always whingeing on about how we're a de-industrialised open economy, subject to world shocks like no other etc etc. Of course we bleedin' are, we started the whole thing. These are good things, not bad things. It's what we all set out striving for. As we'll discover when the world returns to some semblance of boring normality.

Except by the time it does we'll all be groaning under the lash of Victorian values: lotsa tariffs, loadsa pointless education, welfare for anyone who asks, subsidised housing for life, landed nimbies stopping vital infrastructure, armed services girding up to refight the Crimean War...

Blimey, we're only waiting for the EU to break up so we can apply to join.
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Wiley wrote:
Starmer it seems to Wiley, actaually made the mistake of going back to the years of Blair/Mandelsohn.

He did it badly, yes.

He appointed McSweeney, (as his Mandelsohn) to become his all powerful Downing Street Chief of Staff/Spin Doctor, who was given authority, to brief against his cabinet, and any Labour MPs, who were dissenters, as well as opponents, and of course "left wingers".

He did it badly, yes.

When Starmer "stupidly" (given that Peter had been forced to resign twice before, and he was warned by colleagues not to do it) allowed the appointment of Mandelsohn, on the advice of Morgan, there was more than enough moderate Labour MPS to sweep them both out, when it went wrong.

He did it badly, yes.

For some reason there are still "New Labour" comrades that want the "Good Old Days" of spin and Svengalis.

You're talking about the Roman Republic, are you? That was before Kemi's time.

Boring old Andy hasnt made that mistake yet.

He's not boring. I only wish he were. He hasn't done anything yet so you're right, he hasn't made a single mistake. Though everything he's announced he's going to do is a mistake. Go on, name one that isn't. We'll see the cut of your jib when you're nailed to it.

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